Do you think pirating old games is ok?

Do you think pirating games that are old and impossible to find anywhere? I mean look at this.http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00000DMAD/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8%26me=%26seller=67$ for Grim Fandango? Thats just unreasonable to pay for. Especially considering weither an old game like this will work on peoples PC's or not. For old games like this I really want to play and see what what all this fuss about them. But I don't think paying 67$ is really reasonable at all.Im not saying that old games are ok to pirate I just think that the really old ones that you can no longer buy in stores or buy online through DD.Do you think pirating old games is ok?
i guess, but if you can buy them still at cheap prices or for download then absolutely not.Do you think pirating old games is ok?
New games? No. Old games the company can't get the money for? Might be ok. Activision games? Certainly, or at least buy used.
[QUOTE=''Mckenna1845'']i guess, but if you can buy them still at cheap prices or for download then absolutely not.[/QUOTE]



Ya I don't mean cheap old games that are easy to find. Games like Fallout can easily found all over the internet and is in alot of DD sites. However a game like Grim Fandango is impossible to find anywhere.
nope, it's not ok.
Well this is called abandonware and no its not legal or really ok. Still I wonder where the logic of this debate ends. Books do not have lifetime copyrights and neither do games. The problem is that they are treated with the same lifespan (50 years I believe) even though games expire or become classics much quicker. I would like to see congress address this by issuing a 10 year copyright and trademark to video games. Then they would become public domain. I think this would be fair to both sides (devs and players).
If a game is no longer in print, it means the creators are no longer interested in making money off of that game. Oblige them.But if the game is in print, either boxed or through DD, buy it. No matter how old it is. Buy it.
Piracy is still theft, but in the case of very old games (10years + ) which you cannot find anywhere, what is the value of the theft?



For a brand new game being pirated you could argue that is a lost sale of $50 or whatever the launch price is. But for something 10 years old, where the developer no longer exists, where no shop still sells a new version of it, only preowned - what is the value of it then? With many games that have fallen under the heading of abandonware, it is now impossible to get money to the company that made it for their game.
Do it,But if you do New Games, keep it on the downlow, because they wont necessairly fine you.
[QUOTE=''parasitesingle'']I have no problem with it. Piracy is bad because it harms the people creating games. If they stand to make no money on the sale in the first place, there's no harm done.[/QUOTE]

This, for sure. I don't think I could ever bring myself to pay $40+ for an old game unless it was one that I absolutely loved. If it's not sold by the company anymore then the money you pay isn't going to them, it's just going to the private party selling it to you, so it's no harm done.
There's only one answer possible *looks at banner on top of this page*[quote=''forum rules'']The PC %26 Mac forum is available for you to discuss PC and Mac games, yada, yada yada..Warning!: Admitting to pirating video games, or playing pirated video games will result in moderation with a possible suspension duration. [/quote]
I guess it's not as bad as pirating new games, but still not right.
I don't see a problem if the game is no longer being made and can really only be bought through friends or ebay. The reason for that is if you download it the developer/publisher won't make money, but there is no way for them to make money of it anyway. No if the game is re-released in digital form then i do not think it is ok to download it.So if the developer/publisher don't find the need to re-release a game to make money off it then i find nothing wrong with downloading it.
This is a bit of a ''touchy'' subject... I understand people that say that it should be OK if anybody pirates an old game, however if there is a copyright standing on the game I would hate to be the person who created it... So... No, I do not think it is OK to pirate in any circumnstances...A bit OT, but there is a great Irish website that I am sure you guys know about already... It's called Abandonia and they have a lot of old titles!! They explain why they are able to put them online on the first place (abandonware, etc - http://abandonia.com/en/faq) and have some great games!
[QUOTE=''BLKR4330'']There's only one answer possible *looks at banner on top of this page*[quote=''forum rules'']The PC %26 Mac forum is available for you to discuss PC and Mac games, yada, yada yada..Warning!: Admitting to pirating video games, or playing pirated video games will result in moderation with a possible suspension duration. [/quote][/QUOTE]



If you say that you do not find it bad to pirate games where the developer/publisher can no longer make money off it that does not say you play or pirate games, but just that you believe it is ok. I do not believe killing is entirely wrong if for the right reason, but that does not mean i have ever killed or am killing someone.



As far as i see there arn't much on the rules of what he asked or how we answered the question. If the mods want to go beyond what their own rules say than that's fine with me its not like i haven't been modded before.
Nope.It's never OK to pirate games.
Piracy is what keeps such c1assics alive.
No...no..!!!
[QUOTE=''Agent_Kaliaver''][QUOTE=''BLKR4330'']There's only one answer possible *looks at banner on top of this page*[quote=''forum rules'']The PC %26 Mac forum is available for you to discuss PC and Mac games, yada, yada yada..Warning!: Admitting to pirating video games, or playing pirated video games will result in moderation with a possible suspension duration. [/quote][/QUOTE] If you say that you do not find it bad to pirate games where the developer/publisher can no longer make money off it that does not say you play or pirate games, but just that you believe it is ok. I do not believe killing is entirely wrong if for the right reason, but that does not mean i have ever killed or am killing someone. As far as i see there arn't much on the rules of what he asked or how we answered the question. If the mods want to go beyond what their own rules say than that's fine with me its not like i haven't been modded before.[/QUOTE]true. i was just trying to point out that this is not the place to discuss such matters. if anyone wants to find out how far the rules will stretch than that's fine by me but i am pretty sure one would be walking a fine line by asking and answering such a question.
Isn't it Okay to Download Nintendo ROMs for Games that are No Longer Distributed in the Stores or Commercially Exploited? Aren't They Considered ''Public Domain''?No, the current availability of a game in stores is irrelevant as to its copyright status. Copyrights do not enter the public domain just because they are no longer commercially exploited or widely available. Therefore, the copyrights of games are valid even if the games are not found on store shelves, and using, copying and/or distributing those games is a copyright infringement. Haven't the Copyrights for Old Games Expired? U.S. copyright laws state that copyrights owned by corporations are valid for 75 years from the date of first publication. Because video games have been around for less than three decades, the copyrights of all video games will not expire for many decades to come.I got this from http://www.nintendo.com/corp/legal.jsp#domain